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South Korean pickpockets becoming bolder, more violent
On the morning of April 6, a policeman who tried to halt and question a suspicious-looking group of men loitering near the escalator in Tokyo's Nishi Nippori station was attacked with irritant spray. Twenty seven people in the vicinity were treated for burning eyes and sore throats.
"We sneaked into Japan by ship the end of last year," Shin Pyong-kon, who was detained at the scene, is quoted. "We brought the spray irritant from South Korea to protect ourselves."
Shin, age 38, was charged with assault and other crimes. He refused to reveal the names of his confederates or admit to acts of pickpocketing, which, reports the Sankei Shimbun (May 1), began to be committed by Korean nationals from around the beginning of the Heisei era (1989). "As South Korea beefed up penalties, they began leaving Korea and coming here, where they targeted Japanese, who are in the habit of carrying around large amounts of cash," explains a source in the National Police Agency.
In June 2004, one of a team of pickpockets from South Korea was shot by a policemen while resisting arrest in Denenchofu, Ota Ward, and the number of incidents temporarily declined. The total reported incidents of pickpocketing in 2005, around 15,500, marked a decline of about 3,800 from the previous year. But Koreans were involved in 941 incidents in 2005, a year on-increase of 327. Most of these incidents took place in Tokyo, Osaka and other major cities and did not involve acts of violence.
This year, however, incidents involving Koreans appear to be on the increase and are conspicuous for their violence. Irritant spray was also used to make getaways in separate incidents at Ichigawa and Shinjuku subway stations.
According to the Sankei, the Tokyo Metropolitan Police have identified two separate pickpocket groups, one originating from Seoul and the other based in Pusan. Both target mainly middle-aged and elderly women, with the aim of grabbing not only cash but identity cards, from which they attempt to determine their victims' PIN numbers. Escalators afford the teams, numbering from four to as many as 10, with the opportunity to strike and make a quick getaway.
The Seoul groups are said to often include men and women working as a team. They usually lurk around department stores and large supermarkets. The Pusan groups prefers rail stations, and usually includes a "bodyguard" — often a practitioner of taekwondo or else armed with a kitchen knife — whose task is to physically protect the person entrusted with lifting the victim's wallet or handbag and to assist in making the getaway.
Shin, the man arrested on April 6, is believed to be one such bodyguard and part of a Pusan-based group. He was arrested in Osaka on similar charges in 2002, and deported to South Korea.
An MPD spokesperson voiced concerns that the pickpocket groups might resort to even more extreme measures. To combat the influx, the MPD is expediting plans to augment patrols, while working to plug the smugglers' routes into Japan.
May 3, 2006
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Yeah blame it all on Koreans. Why not change the title to Japanese pickpocketers becoming more violent. Japanese do it a hell of alot more than Koreans from the stats there. That article is just trying to create fear and racism.
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| South Korean pickpockets becoming bolder, more violent |  |
higekisan   (May 3 2006 - 08:24) | Rate | Report |
How come Koreans cause so much trouble in Japan, but not in America? I'm not talking about Korean-Americans, I mean Korean nationals living legally (or illegally) in America. I've lived in San Francisco and Los Angeles, and I never heard of Koreans causing trouble. The only Asians that seemed to cause the most trouble were Vietnamese and Filipinos. In Japan, the Koreans are troublesome. Media biases? I don't think so.
| Proximity and opportunity would explain it | |
| Beelzebub (May 3 2006 - 09:07) | Rate | Report |
1. It's not easy to sneak into California from Pusan in a small boat.
2. Once you get to California, you'll need a car to go anywhere.
3. It's not easy to blend into the general population because you don't look like everyone else.
4. You can easily pick a pocket on a crowded train, but not on a crowded freeway.
5. American's aren't in the habit of carrying large sums of cash.
2. Once you get to California, you'll need a car to go anywhere.
3. It's not easy to blend into the general population because you don't look like everyone else.
4. You can easily pick a pocket on a crowded train, but not on a crowded freeway.
5. American's aren't in the habit of carrying large sums of cash.
| South Korean pickpockets becoming bolder, more violent | |
| mummet (May 3 2006 - 10:11) | Rate | Report |
The total reported incidents of pickpocketing in 2005, around 15,500, marked a decline of about 3,800 from the previous year. But Koreans were involved in 941 incidents in 2005, a year on-increase of 327.
Yeah blame it all on Koreans. Why not change the title to Japanese pickpocketers becoming more violent. Japanese do it a hell of alot more than Koreans from the stats there. That article is just trying to create fear and racism.
| In response to higekisan and Beelzebub | |
| BoredMan (May 3 2006 - 11:51) | Rate | Report |
You two are grossly misinterpreting the message this article is trying to deliver and making comparisons and explanations which are unfair, not cogent, discriminatory, and totally outside the scope of the original article.
First, the author talks only about criminal elements from South Korea who have sneaked into Japan to prey on new victimes, because South Korean law enforcement has become unbearable for them. The author mentions nothing about Koreans or those of Korean descent living in Japan.
To quote higekisan, "How come Koreans cause so much trouble in Japan, but not in America?"
What does criminals who happen to be Korean plying their "profession" in Japan have to do with Koreans in general? Furthermore, why do you mention Koreans living in the United States? What do they have to do with the original article and the criminal elements the author writes about?
Second, you ask why, "Koreans cause so much trouble in Japan." What about Koreans living in Japan? The author is not writing about Koreans living in Japan. They author is not specifically about Koreans living in Japan and the crimes committed by them.
It is a widely known fact that people of Korean descent make up the largest minority in Japan. And we ar enot even talking about those South Koreans who have come over to Japan recently or for work. The vast majority of people of Korean descent residing in Japan are legally residing in Japan and are second or third generation Koreans. In fact, I dare say that the vast majority of them have never visited South or North Korea and consider Japan to be their home. These Korean residents are law-abiding and highly assimilated into Japanese society. You probably would not know these people were Korean unless they told you so.
Third, bear in mind that these criminals are professionals who have sneaked into Japan to commit crimes. They are criminals first and foremost, and Koreans only by birth and origin. You have pickpockets in Japan who are native Japanese and the vast majority of pickpockets in Japan are probably native Japanese. And you most probably have pickpockets who are of other nationalities, including Filipino, Chinese, Americans, and etc.
If what I wrote above is true and you agree with what I have wrote, why do you imply that Koreans in Japan are more troublesome than others? Koreans in Japan are not more prone to criminal activities. In fact, Koreans everywhere are not prone to criminal activities.
The author writes clearly that these criminals who happen to be Korean, very well organized, and violent have come to Japan to prey on victims, because Japanese people carry large amounts of cash. Just leave it at that and make no further interpretations. Do not try to make a connection between these criminals who happen to be Korean and Koreans in general.
First, the author talks only about criminal elements from South Korea who have sneaked into Japan to prey on new victimes, because South Korean law enforcement has become unbearable for them. The author mentions nothing about Koreans or those of Korean descent living in Japan.
To quote higekisan, "How come Koreans cause so much trouble in Japan, but not in America?"
What does criminals who happen to be Korean plying their "profession" in Japan have to do with Koreans in general? Furthermore, why do you mention Koreans living in the United States? What do they have to do with the original article and the criminal elements the author writes about?
Second, you ask why, "Koreans cause so much trouble in Japan." What about Koreans living in Japan? The author is not writing about Koreans living in Japan. They author is not specifically about Koreans living in Japan and the crimes committed by them.
It is a widely known fact that people of Korean descent make up the largest minority in Japan. And we ar enot even talking about those South Koreans who have come over to Japan recently or for work. The vast majority of people of Korean descent residing in Japan are legally residing in Japan and are second or third generation Koreans. In fact, I dare say that the vast majority of them have never visited South or North Korea and consider Japan to be their home. These Korean residents are law-abiding and highly assimilated into Japanese society. You probably would not know these people were Korean unless they told you so.
Third, bear in mind that these criminals are professionals who have sneaked into Japan to commit crimes. They are criminals first and foremost, and Koreans only by birth and origin. You have pickpockets in Japan who are native Japanese and the vast majority of pickpockets in Japan are probably native Japanese. And you most probably have pickpockets who are of other nationalities, including Filipino, Chinese, Americans, and etc.
If what I wrote above is true and you agree with what I have wrote, why do you imply that Koreans in Japan are more troublesome than others? Koreans in Japan are not more prone to criminal activities. In fact, Koreans everywhere are not prone to criminal activities.
The author writes clearly that these criminals who happen to be Korean, very well organized, and violent have come to Japan to prey on victims, because Japanese people carry large amounts of cash. Just leave it at that and make no further interpretations. Do not try to make a connection between these criminals who happen to be Korean and Koreans in general.
| i disagree, mummet | |
| sandal (May 3 2006 - 13:04) | Rate | Report |
Read the story again. There's definitely cause for concern.
I don't think any Japanese have used irritant spray or pulled out knives as quickly as the Koreans have.
Are we sure all the other crimes were by Japansese?
>But Koreans were involved in 941 >incidents in 2005, a year on->increase of 327.
I don't think any Japanese have used irritant spray or pulled out knives as quickly as the Koreans have.
Are we sure all the other crimes were by Japansese?
>But Koreans were involved in 941 >incidents in 2005, a year on->increase of 327.
| South Korean pickpockets becoming bolder, more violent | |
| mummet (May 3 2006 - 13:08) | Rate | Report |
just because the article doesnt say japanese do, doesnt mean they dont either. either way its still mostly japanese. koreans arnt even 10% its disgusting racist reporting. There is no balance to the story what so ever. Its not that violent. No ones been hurt. A knife pulled is not a knife used.
| Only 10%! | |
| sandal (May 3 2006 - 13:21) | Rate | Report |
I wonder how long till 10% of pickpocketing in Korea is done by Japanese?
| dont' get all fired up | |
| br (May 3 2006 - 14:56) | Rate | Report |
once again, it looks like people react with guts rather than mind...
mummet> korean population in japan is 600,000 if my memory serves me well, that's roughly 0.5% of the total population. 10% of pickpocketing incidents are done by south koreans according to this report. if things were "all equal", 0.5% of pickpocketing incidents would be done by south koreans. now if you can't see there's an imbalance here, then I can't do anything for you
the rest> well, it's an article written by sankei, right ? what would you expect ? of course they play the south korea card ! I mean, they don't lie, but they choose to report on this subject, which does not serve the interest of reconciliation between the two countries...
thankfully, there are other papers that will have a more balanced approach on the relation between south korea & japan. my problem is that, in South Korea there are no "dissenting" voices. there are no papers that will go against the "nationaly certified" truth... it's evolving (for the good), best example being the hwangh wu suk affair (a great view into korean national identity obsession and its excesses)...
mummet> korean population in japan is 600,000 if my memory serves me well, that's roughly 0.5% of the total population. 10% of pickpocketing incidents are done by south koreans according to this report. if things were "all equal", 0.5% of pickpocketing incidents would be done by south koreans. now if you can't see there's an imbalance here, then I can't do anything for you
the rest> well, it's an article written by sankei, right ? what would you expect ? of course they play the south korea card ! I mean, they don't lie, but they choose to report on this subject, which does not serve the interest of reconciliation between the two countries...
thankfully, there are other papers that will have a more balanced approach on the relation between south korea & japan. my problem is that, in South Korea there are no "dissenting" voices. there are no papers that will go against the "nationaly certified" truth... it's evolving (for the good), best example being the hwangh wu suk affair (a great view into korean national identity obsession and its excesses)...
| South Korean pickpockets becoming bolder, more violent | |
| kimigano (May 3 2006 - 19:38) | Rate | Report |
they have knives and pepper spray. Good for them. That's why I pack a gun when out and about in Tokyo.
| I agree and disagree Mummet | |
| soundwave00 (May 4 2006 - 11:52) | Rate | Report |
A Knife pulled is not a knife used? The threat of violence makes it a violent crime. The irritant spray used for escape may be non lethal, but ift is a problem for law enforcement and innocent bystanders; which, speaking from personal experience with pepper spray, sucks to no end.
But there is a serious problem with the reporting here.
"As South Korea beefed up penalties, they began leaving Korea and coming here, where they targeted Japanese, who are in the habit of carrying around large amounts of cash," explains a source in the National Police Agency.
I personally believe that these people did not come to Japan just to pickpocket. This particular group may be the exception, but most foreigners actually try to make an honest living. In this closed society, however, it quickly degrades to doing what is necessary for survival.
What really bothers me is the section that mentions one pickpocket being shot and the immediate decrease in crimes by the Korean pickpockets. That is almost overtly stating to use violence against foreigners if you feel they are up to no good, but that's just how I read it.
Also, the "bodyguard"? Be careful because he might use Tae kwondo on you? Come on. That's like saying, don't challenge a Japanese pickpocket, or he might kill you with one karate punch. Sounds silly doesn't it?
But there is a serious problem with the reporting here.
"As South Korea beefed up penalties, they began leaving Korea and coming here, where they targeted Japanese, who are in the habit of carrying around large amounts of cash," explains a source in the National Police Agency.
I personally believe that these people did not come to Japan just to pickpocket. This particular group may be the exception, but most foreigners actually try to make an honest living. In this closed society, however, it quickly degrades to doing what is necessary for survival.
What really bothers me is the section that mentions one pickpocket being shot and the immediate decrease in crimes by the Korean pickpockets. That is almost overtly stating to use violence against foreigners if you feel they are up to no good, but that's just how I read it.
Also, the "bodyguard"? Be careful because he might use Tae kwondo on you? Come on. That's like saying, don't challenge a Japanese pickpocket, or he might kill you with one karate punch. Sounds silly doesn't it?
| South Korean pickpockets becoming bolder, more violent | |
| sapporoman (May 4 2006 - 16:12) | Rate | Report |
Korean pickpocket gangs do not come to Japan for tourism nor are they particularly in a rush to get jobs in Japan since many are not allowed to get jobs because of their tourist visa status. There is only one reason why Korean pickpocket gangs come to Japan. And that's to pickpocket.
I personally believe that these people did not come to Japan just to pickpocket. This particular group may be the exception, but most foreigners actually try to make an honest living. In this closed society, however, it quickly degrades to doing what is necessary for survival.
| South Korean pickpockets becoming bolder, more violent | |
| Douglas_MacArthur (May 4 2006 - 17:15) | Rate | Report |
"How come Koreans cause so much trouble in Japan"
Because Japan attracts a quality of people the way a cow chip attracts flies.
Because Japan attracts a quality of people the way a cow chip attracts flies.
| Foreign Crime Wave | |
| W650 (May 4 2006 - 18:17) | Rate | Report |
Korean pickpockets can get in line behind Chinese house robbers, Latino prostitutes and Iranian drug pushers as evildoing foreigners in the eyes of the Japanese.
The NPA plays up crimes by foreigners in the hopes that it will divert attention from increases in crime overall and dropping arrest rates. The media is happy to sensationalize crime by foreigners.
San Francisco is a long way from Seoul. It’s a long way to go to pick a few pockets. While pepper spray and a knife are enough protection in Japan, I wonder what a successful pickpocket in Los Angeles might need.
The NPA plays up crimes by foreigners in the hopes that it will divert attention from increases in crime overall and dropping arrest rates. The media is happy to sensationalize crime by foreigners.
San Francisco is a long way from Seoul. It’s a long way to go to pick a few pockets. While pepper spray and a knife are enough protection in Japan, I wonder what a successful pickpocket in Los Angeles might need.
| Why don't Koreans cause trouble in America? | |
| gyakuzuki (May 4 2006 - 21:41) | Rate | Report |
You think Sung Kim Lee is gonna try and pick-pocket some black guy in Cali? At least in Japan they have a fighting chance.
| EVERYONE SETTLE DOWN AND JUST READ | |
| zeth006 (May 5 2006 - 10:40) | Rate | Report |
Please...everybody...settle down and just think for a moment.
Japan isn't the most tolerant country in the world. Sure, it's a nice "tourist" attraction for gaijins, but still...look further inside...
...and you find that 95% of all rape cases there go unreported, and if Japanese men on buses aren't pickpocketing people, it's because they're groping their own women! The sad part is that those security guards placed on buses were originally ordered to guard against pickpockets, but ended up being stationed there just to protect women against gropers and perverts!
What does this have to do with anything? EVERYTHING.
You see? This article never shows any real facts or figures concerning the PERCENTAGE of pickpockets who are Korean. It just lists a bunch of questionable numbers with little attention given to the actual source. Very suspicious, wouldn't you all agree?
Koreans by nature ARE NOT TROUBLEMAKERS and neither will you find other individuals of other races to be. It's just a matter of socioeconomic status. Poor people will have an incentive to pickpocket others regardless of race if they're finding that they're starving and unable to pay off bills. It's just common knowledge. The sad part is that we attribute pickpocketing to a lack of morals instead of desperation.
So would you people please just CALM DOWN and stop trying to bag on the Koreans? Especially you Japanese out there. Even while claim to be peaceful and friendly, deep inside, you have these xenophobic sentiments against immigrants and nationals of different ethnicities. Be consistent and stop being so hypocritical.
Japan isn't the most tolerant country in the world. Sure, it's a nice "tourist" attraction for gaijins, but still...look further inside...
...and you find that 95% of all rape cases there go unreported, and if Japanese men on buses aren't pickpocketing people, it's because they're groping their own women! The sad part is that those security guards placed on buses were originally ordered to guard against pickpockets, but ended up being stationed there just to protect women against gropers and perverts!
What does this have to do with anything? EVERYTHING.
You see? This article never shows any real facts or figures concerning the PERCENTAGE of pickpockets who are Korean. It just lists a bunch of questionable numbers with little attention given to the actual source. Very suspicious, wouldn't you all agree?
Koreans by nature ARE NOT TROUBLEMAKERS and neither will you find other individuals of other races to be. It's just a matter of socioeconomic status. Poor people will have an incentive to pickpocket others regardless of race if they're finding that they're starving and unable to pay off bills. It's just common knowledge. The sad part is that we attribute pickpocketing to a lack of morals instead of desperation.
So would you people please just CALM DOWN and stop trying to bag on the Koreans? Especially you Japanese out there. Even while claim to be peaceful and friendly, deep inside, you have these xenophobic sentiments against immigrants and nationals of different ethnicities. Be consistent and stop being so hypocritical.
| A fine putdown, zeth006 | |
| Beelzebub (May 5 2006 - 15:47) | Rate | Report |
The Korean pickpockets certainly don't discriminate --- the'll steal from anyone regardless of race, color or creed. So then tell you what: Ater you feel a tugging at your rear pocket, attempt to resist and get a squirt of mace in your eyes for your troubles, come back here and plead their case.
PS: The stats in Sankei came from the National Police Agency.
PS: The stats in Sankei came from the National Police Agency.
| Beelzebub | |
| zeth006 (May 5 2006 - 16:59) | Rate | Report |
Beelzebub, I don't care WHERE the statistics came from.
This article was posted by an obviously biased media.
So tell me, Beelzebub. What are the percentages? I see a few spotty numbers here and there. Mind explaining? You are surprisingly very terse in trying to explain your case.
This article was posted by an obviously biased media.
So tell me, Beelzebub. What are the percentages? I see a few spotty numbers here and there. Mind explaining? You are surprisingly very terse in trying to explain your case.
| Why should I explain "my" case? | |
| Beelzebub (May 5 2006 - 18:50) | Rate | Report |
Beelzebub, I don't care WHERE the statistics came from.
This article was posted by an obviously biased media.
With the above two sentences, zeth006, you've made it crystal clear that nothing I write would convince you! Common sense tells me not to waste more time. But you might tell me why it's "bias" on the part of the media to identify a group of criminals — one that enters the country illegally and targets mostly middle-aged and elderly women — by nationality.
This article was posted by an obviously biased media.
With the above two sentences, zeth006, you've made it crystal clear that nothing I write would convince you! Common sense tells me not to waste more time. But you might tell me why it's "bias" on the part of the media to identify a group of criminals — one that enters the country illegally and targets mostly middle-aged and elderly women — by nationality.
| Nevertheless... | |
| Beelzebub (May 5 2006 - 19:03) | Rate | Report |
http://www.sankei.co.jp/news/060501/sha042.htm
Here's the "biased" Sankei article in its entirety, for those who can read Japanese.
Also, if you type "suri" (pickpocket) and "Kankokujin" (South Korean) into Google in Japanese, you get 255,000 hits. But nota bene, z6 says they're biased...
Here's the "biased" Sankei article in its entirety, for those who can read Japanese.
Also, if you type "suri" (pickpocket) and "Kankokujin" (South Korean) into Google in Japanese, you get 255,000 hits. But nota bene, z6 says they're biased...
| Korean visa waiver mistake | |
| AsiaMichael (May 5 2006 - 19:23) | Rate | Report |
The Japanese government made a BIG mistake as well giving Koreans a tourist visa waiver. They need to change it back.
| Re: Korean visa waiver mistake | |
| hereandthere (May 7 2006 - 19:26) | Rate | Report |
"The Japanese government made a BIG mistake as well giving Koreans a tourist visa waiver. They need to change it back."
AsiaMike read the article, "We sneaked into Japan by ship the end of last year," Shin Pyong-kon, who was detained at the scene, is quoted.
They did not come through conventual tourist entry points.
AsiaMike read the article, "We sneaked into Japan by ship the end of last year," Shin Pyong-kon, who was detained at the scene, is quoted.
They did not come through conventual tourist entry points.
| I have never seen so many reasons to justify | |
| bssipler (May 8 2006 - 13:01) | Rate | Report |
a pickpocket's actions as on this thread.
Why don't the Korean pickpockets pick pockets in Korea?
Because there are no pockets for pickpocketers to pick in the pickpocket training area of pickpocketing Korea?
Why don't the Korean pickpockets pick pockets in Korea?
Because there are no pockets for pickpocketers to pick in the pickpocket training area of pickpocketing Korea?
| bssipler -- that was deep | |
| Beelzebub (May 8 2006 - 13:19) | Rate | Report |
This item, from the Pyongyang Press: "Park Pyon-pong picked the pocket of a Pentecostal plumber from Pusan, prancing while pitting prunes and planting petunias and beside a parked Peugeot."
| mummet | |
| tetsukon (May 8 2006 - 18:18) | Rate | Report |
It's not even 10%, right. But Koreans make up a very small percentage of people in Japan, even if you include all those here legally.
| Perhaps that Pyongyang Press article | |
| bssipler (May 9 2006 - 06:27) | Rate | Report |
not picked up by Portland-Philadelphia-Port Townsend-Petaluma-Phoenix press? Possibly pick-pocketing people pressuring press to suppress publications and periodicals of pickpocketing besides Peugots so can increase pickpocketing besides plain pavement in Pokyo?
| Oh pooh | |
| Beelzebub (May 9 2006 - 23:36) | Rate | Report |
Your practical pejoratives poke pain at Parks (as well as Kims and Lees). Please prance progressively, sir; persisting in penetration will predicate your penultimate penury.
| Plural Poo | |
| bssipler (May 10 2006 - 02:35) | Rate | Report |
Park's people pass pleasantries and peas in plagiarized Nippon pestaurant in Poughkeepsie.
Park's people playful!
Park's people in Pokyo ponder if Pokyo not Promised Land, when prosecutor and probation officer provide portage to prison!
(Park probably perceive pick-pocketers most promising Promised Land now Peking....?)
Park's people playful!
Park's people in Pokyo ponder if Pokyo not Promised Land, when prosecutor and probation officer provide portage to prison!
(Park probably perceive pick-pocketers most promising Promised Land now Peking....?)
| South Korean pickpockets becoming bolder, more violent | |
| ivyinacircle (May 10 2006 - 04:05) | Rate | Report |
The reason Koreans pickpocket in Japan not in Korea is because Korean pickpockets will be hero in Korea and say they punished and got back the money from evil Japanese. Sounds Good!
Thus Japanese think that Korean by nature are problem. Aged people said that Be careful for Chinese and Don't be involved in Korean!
Thus Japanese think that Korean by nature are problem. Aged people said that Be careful for Chinese and Don't be involved in Korean!
| It is a lot of trouble to go to to just be a | |
| bssipler (May 10 2006 - 08:27) | Rate | Report |
pickpocket. Why not stay in Korea and train to be an accountant?
| Pant-pant | |
| Beelzebub (May 10 2006 - 09:41) | Rate | Report |
Persist in perusing purple prose and this person's epidermis will erupt in pustules! Park's impending imprisonment promises to put a permanent stop to his pocket picking! So there!
| South Korean pickpockets becoming bolder, more violent | |
| chucky3176 (May 12 2006 - 11:30) | Rate | Report |